French Revolution Blog Post #2
Due by 10pm on Friday, 1-24
Read the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen (located in packet) and post (as your social class):
To what extent do you agree or disagree with these articles and why? How do you predict they will affect change in France? Specifically reference AT LEAST 3 articles in your entry.
You must submit your original post (2 paragraphs min.) and comment on at least 1 other persons post (1 paragraph).
Respond as one of the following based on your last name:
Respond as one of the following based on your last name:
Peasants/ Urban Workers (A - D)
Bourgeoisie (E - H)
Noble (I - L)
Clergy (M - P)
Queen Marie Antoinette (Q - T)
King Louis XVI (U - Z)
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ReplyDeleteRecently, I, Queen Marie Antoinette have seen these atrocious documents flying through the public eye, specifically the "Déclaration des droits de l'Homme et du citoyen". I have decided to inform the public of the dangerous side to these words and the atrocious claims they preach. They claim that all men need to be Equal. How should this be so, when some members of our glorious and upright Frace contribute more. This is not truly considered to be the proper say to go is this? Are you stating such Treachery that a mere farmer should be considered the same as say, a clergymen? Even if so they contribute far different to society and thus would receive more rights for helping our glorious Nation revitalize. The second atrocity would be the claims to liberty amongst the third estate. Liberty is already provided, but laws, which your declaration so clearly supports, provide some restrictions on these liberties to prevent grievances. What you are describing is a way to anarchy and unrest. Lastly, the purpose of protection against government is absurd. They make out our monarchy, ordained of divine right, as some sort of oppressions regime. Our roles are simple, but the third estate cannot accept necessary taxes to keep our great nation in shape.The second discouraging point of these unruly ideas would likely be the Declaration of Rights of Women. I, a woman myself, simply cannot stand how this was proposed. Women of France are guaranteed their own personal freedom and choices. This is still much more than other countries, and even my home country. The fact that a dutiful woman can serve her husband should be her pride and joy. To all these we respond with, the entirety of the Serment du Jeu de Paume, is balanced in unreasonably and false belief.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, I would like to speak to great length today on the affect of this propagandist enlightenment stupidity. These ideals are spreading like wildfire among the third estate but as I have mentioned in earlier talks, they are rooted in sheer bias. The Third Estate is unreasonably demanding taxes on the more contributing members of society. We first and second Estates contribute highly to the good of our righteous nation and thus we shouldn't be restricted to more contributions. You less contributing and less helpful members of society of which we strive so hard to protect need to participate in your share. Should the general public choose to abide by these words spoken through these atrocious articles of misinformation, I would like to remind thee of the purest chaos of order within the nation. Order breeds stability, and with the equality and liberty of which these documents describe, only pure suffering will result through the anarchy following.
Jackson R/Queen Marie Antoinette
I agree with your statement about equality among the classes. As a noble I feel I contribute greatly to our society taking up high military and government positions. The third estate should not be able to have a chance at these positions when I am of higher class. Although I agree with those statements I think you are wrong with your statements of absolutism. It is oppressive and takes power away from my estate and make my positions in the government pretty much just a title to carry around. This leads me to partially agree with how you think the reforms will affect us. I think the third estates tax demand is absurd as well, but I do believe that with your absolutist reign over we can finally move onto a stronger France.
DeleteNoble/Ava Kiss
As Queen Marie Antoinette I very much agree with this. Certain people do not deserve the rights that they would acquire with this declaration. The idea of protection against ones very own government is grounds for treason itself. I agree with everything you have said and want the people of our country to agree as well. Finally, the enlightenment ideals that are scorching our great country need to come to a rest, the people are being controlled like sheep. I very much support you.
DeleteMarie Antoinette/Lucas Santana
I very well agree as a noble towards this situation. Queen Antoninette, I really think that your words that about the third estate is competely true. The third estate doesn't really deserve to have such high positions because they can't hold it unfortuately. Us nobles are talented and thought of high position this is why we are able to hold such high class positions. Also the third estate is depending on this Enlightment way to much to the point they decided to have taxes on the upper estates too. I am glad that you as our queen think that we should not be taxed like the third estate. I am glad we see eye to eye in some situations.
DeleteI very well agree as a noble towards this situation. Queen Antoninette, I really think that your words that about the third estate is competely true. The third estate doesn't really deserve to have such high positions because they can't hold it unfortuately. Us nobles are talented and thought of high position this is why we are able to hold such high class positions. Also the third estate is depending on this Enlightment way to much to the point they decided to have taxes on the upper estates too. I am glad that you as our queen think that we should not be taxed like the third estate. I am glad we see eye to eye in some situations.
DeleteNoble/ Abhilasha Kothapeta
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ReplyDeleteAs a noble I am content with these new articles although they did not conform to all of my wishes, but I knew I may have to compromise for a stronger French nation. Personally I agree with articles 3 and 13. I agree with article 3 because is speaks of no single individual governing the entirety of France. Before the revolution I was not a fan of absolutism in our government because they took away the power of my noble class. With the new article it prevents that which makes me happy. Article 13 is something I can back up as well. It speaks of an equal distribution of goods based on what they have. This helps me keep a high status without worrying about inflation which was starting to put some damage to my money. Although I am not a fan of common contribution ideas which is mentioned in the beginning of article 13 as well as article 14. They are speaking of making even taxes for all the estates and for everyone to offer something to fix the hit on our economy. It’s something I am against in my beliefs and I am not happy with this new change.
ReplyDeleteI think these new articles could help France return to its glory. With the removal of absolutism I think there will be a flow of ideas on how to fix problems in our government and economy. The right for everyone to have a voice will heavily contribute to this because if someone doesn’t like something they can bring up this concern and we can fix it as a nation. I think a step towards fixing our economy is this equal distribution. With a few good harvests and not needing to worry about purchasing something you can’t afford we can work our way back into a stable economy. It may take a while, but I believe these articles are a step towards a great future for France.
Noble/Ava Kiss
DeleteAs King Louis XVI, I disagree with your approval of article three. As the king, I was chosen to possess the divine right to rule, meaning that I am reinforced by God's will and my absolute authority is thus justified. I rule with only France's best interests in mind, carefully considering each and every one of my decisions. If everyone was given a voice like article three stated, people who succumb to the sinful temptations of greed and desire will always end up yearning for more than they deserve, which means that our great nation can easily be led astray by people that voice flawed ideas regarding how France should function. This highlights the fact that not all citizens know what they're doing when it comes to making important decisions that can either make or break the nation, as well as bringing up the risk of people who only wish to benefit themselves and could care less about the rest of France. The Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen is nothing but a joke, a joke that has gone way too far and needs to be eliminated immediately. For the good of France, we must stick to our traditional ways if we want to maintain our reputation as a powerful nation far into the future.
DeleteKing Louis XVI/Freya Wang
I agree with your perspective regarding article 3 in the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen. This is because the removal of absolutism would allow us nobles to finally hold onto our power without it possibly being taken by an absolute monarch ruler. Having no single ruler or authority also gives us the freedom to have a voice regarding much of the government. We could also justify our positions as nobles without being disrupted by the ruler. The right described in article 3 definitely satisfies us nobles in giving us protection from the absolute monarchy as well as being free from absolutism.
DeleteNoble/Megan Kopec
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DeleteI agree, as a member of the third estate, the advocation of more equal rights and say in the way our country France is run seems as a step in the right direction. As the peasants, we have been exploited for taxation and labor for the rich nobles (such as yourself), and we can now have a say in the way that our nation is run in a fair and just way. This will be very beneficial for my caste, as we can now challenge our cruel exploitation, which will very much so affect France in a massive and social way. Now the peasantry will have the ability to represent our glorious nation, and will have more of a say in how our country is run. This can simply not be overstated in it's importance, and I agree greatly with your stance.
DeleteLiam Coldwell/Peasant or Urban Worker
I disagree with these articles for many reasons. Firstly, giving every person the right to vote would lead to chaos and many debates. Also nowhere in the declaration are there rights for women and, as a woman myself, I find that very disrespectful. I disagree with the declaration because it allows for too many rights to peasants and what have they done to deserve that. The declaration was also written behind the back of the King and right after our esteemed Estates General meeting, so all of the participants of the Tennis court oath should be charged with treason. I also believe that the declaration was modeled after the Americans, the French people received help from the very people that we assisted in war. They want to destroy our monarchy and country as a whole.
ReplyDeleteThere are three specific articles I disagree with the most. The first article I dislike is the 8th. This article refers to the fact that no one will be punished until the proven to be guilty by law. This means that the king will have no say in executing someone even if it is evident that the person committed a crime. There will be no personal opinion on these matters and only hard factual laws, which discredits personal discretion. The second article I dislike is the 2nd, which states that every man has the rights to liberty, property, security, and resistance to oppression. I disagree specifically with the property portion of it, why should someone deserve land that they didn't earn? France belongs to the King and I, and all the land given to others is based on the grace of our power. The final article I dislike and disagree with is the 13th, which states that a contribution is required of all citizens for the benefit of the public. There are citizens who deserve to work and there are those who don't, such as myself and the King. This would require me to make contributions to society and even though I have, the people won't see them as contributions anyways. I disagree with the declaration and want France to live in unity under our monarchy.
Marie Antoinette/Lucas Santana
I, King Louis XVI, after being alerted to the existence of the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen, believe that it is absolute blasphemy. Simply put, I am not at all pleased with the ridiculous articles that the so-called declaration presents. All the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen will accomplish if it were to become official is disrupt the unity of the people of France and bring down the status of our great nation. The first article alone falsely claims that all men are born free and with equal rights, which is nowhere near the truth. If all men were born free and equal, then that would mean someone who contributes little to the nation would still receive the same rights and freedoms as someone who may be putting their heart and soul into serving France. This concept is highly frowned upon by me, especially since it means that meager peasants could rise to the same level as my nobility, clergy, and perhaps even myself personally despite these peasants providing nothing other than labor for France. Peasants are peasants for a reason, so it is best to let it stay that way without interference from something as absurd as the declaration. If this first article was to actually be implemented, France would descend into chaos as the holding of high and low positions to promote organization of society would lose all meaning. The idea of equality and freedom for all men would only serve to ruin the traditional social setup of France that we have maintained for such a long time.
ReplyDeleteAnother article that offends me with its very existence would be the third article, which has the audacity to state that sovereignty rests within the nation and that no individual or body can exercise authority that has not been approved by the nation. As the king of France and, ultimately, God's chosen one to rule, I do not believe a lowly declaration has the right to restrict my absolute authority when it is clearly backed up by divine right. With the will of God supporting my authority, all of my decisions are made with the interest of the whole nation in mind. If the cursed third article came to be, having the divided and inexperienced citizens of France make crucial decisions that could decide the fate of the nation would only lead to France's downfall through the worsening of social, political, and economic conflict. Without God on their side, the people are bound to fall victim to sinful temptations such as greed for more money and power, making France have to pay for their incompetence. People will always want more than what they already have, and without God to keep them in check, there is no way regular French citizens can keep the entire nation afloat with their flawed ideas. My distaste for the articles boasted by the declaration also extends to article thirteen, which brings up the idea of a common contribution from everyone that is equitably distributed among the citizens. Once again, I find this to be something only the foolish would agree with, as it means that no one will be spared from tax collection. The nobles of the Second Estate and clergy of the First Estate have always been exempt from taxes as a reward for their services for the nation, and it must stay that way to maintain the stability of the nation. If my nobles and clergy were forced to pay the same taxes that peasants were paying despite doing more for the good of France, that means their helpful contributions and well-deserved status would be unfairly dismissed in the name of this ridiculous article. Forcing everyone to pay taxes would lead to nobles losing land they once thrived from and the clergy beginning to lose their grasp on the church, leading to both economic and religious instability. Without strong nobles and a strong unifying religion, France will sink deeper and deeper into a pit it will not be able to climb out of if the declaration continues with its madness. Unity of France will only occur if we reject the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen and continue to maintain power through traditional ways.
King Louis XVI/Freya Wang
I completely agree with you these rights are outrages. It is only going to bring chaos into France. In addition, I also agree with the fact that not all men are equal and not all of them deserve the same rights. It would ruin our traditional ways of France. It would destroy the traditions that have been working for us. Our old ways maintain the way we function and we shouldn't change it.
DeleteI agree with some of your views towards the declaration. As a noble I completely agree with that article one and article thirteen aren't needed. This brings down my social status as these two articles compare me to that of the third estate saying that all men are born equal and forcing upon taxes on everyone. If all are equal we would be saying that the third estate we would be allowing the filth to take on higher demanding jobs and bigger responsibility than they can probably even handle. Taxes should just be on the third estate as they provide nothing else to the economy and I do agree that as a noble to provide more good towards France and my contributions and status would be largely dismissed. One thing that we don't see eye to eye on is the third article. I think that absolute power shouldn't be placed on one person as it gives the power and opinions on how to rule on the ideas of a single person. I personally this is unreliable and that there should be a distribution of power to provide more viewpoints and opinions of others.
DeleteNoble/Edwin Jiang
As Queen Marie Antoinette I completely agree with your point because I believe that all men should not be equal because how can I as a queen and yourself as King be treated the same as a farmer in the third estate. I also agree with you on the fact that article 3 is just wrong because without an Absolute monarchy in charge which is chosen by god himself, how can anyone else rule who would stay true to their word and only being good things for France. As queen my authority is very crucial as well as yours in France because we only think the best for our country and people. If you are in the third estate then you shall be treated like a third estate person. It is the third estates responsibility to pay their taxes in order to take France out of debt. How can you be against the idea of paying and helping out your own country. I also agree with the you on how the first and second estates should not be taxed because we already do so much with our services being put to France. This is what article 13 was saying, which was the idea of everyone paying taxes equally which is just out of one's mind.
DeleteMarie Antoinette/Anie Tebrejian
As Marie Antoinette, I completely agree with your perspective. I believe that the ideas being proposed in the Declaration will only bring chaos into our society. I don't believe that the royalty of this country should be treated equally as lower peasants within the Third Estate. Clearly there is a difference in our roles and contributions towards France as a whole. I also especially agree with your perspective on Article 13 regarding the taxes. I believe taxes should be a representation of the quality of your work and contributions for improving France as a whole. Therefore, the monarchy, First, and Second Estates' excuse from paying taxes is justified because we simply contribute more. Now that it will be "equal", it isn't fair to the people who are more important and put in more work.
DeleteMarie Antoinette/Katherine Son
I, a noble, truly believe that this documents or so called articles, Declaration of the Rights of Man Citizen are somewhat good and bad for my position. I know through some articles declared, I will be protected by the law and never accused falsely. I believe that they law protecting me is much better than the king ruling over us with his decisions because that didn't do me much good before. Article number 3 is something I support since it takes the idea of absolutism out of the picture, since it was deteriorating my position as a noble before. Articles four, five, and six are great rules that I support too since the Law is the one to be protecting us. Law is the one to prohibit any kind of actions towards us only if the evidence is strong enough. I feel like this law is something useful for me to hide behind and be able to keep my position without anyone interfering and damaging it. However, article one does tend to disturb me. I believe that ALL men shouldn’t be completely equal. The estates are very comfortable for our class. We should have the authority to move up in estates if we don’t have a monarchy ruling us. Third estates should remain as it is since us nobles due have to watch over them and the land. This would also make us to pay taxes just as the third estate did and I really know that us nobles don’t deserve the punishment of paying taxes. Our position is very important and knowledgeable to any kind of supreme leaders such as the government or a monarchy. However, these third estates are no help to the future of France and they hold no power in the government. They aren’t smart and influential like us nobles with important positions.
ReplyDeleteThis declaration and articles are very well executed, except for a few articles as obvious. I think some of these rules of Law protecting us in place of the Absolute monarchy could actually help France. Law will give all estates freedom and peace from the monarchical rulers who always like to play with my position. The debts will be gone under the rule of Law and France will thrive. My only worry is about our people in France. First and Second estate already have the freedom of thriving incredibly due to their important jobs and responsibilities that they hold. However, the third estate doesn’t hold any kind of important responsibilities. They are taxed greatly because of that. If we are equally taxed as the third estate, they might start misusing their freedom. This could somehow put France in a dangerous position of them rebelling and going crazy for ultimate freedom. Overall, my concerns and approval are both equal towards this declaration.
Noble/Abhilasha Kothapeta
As a clergy, I agree with your opinions about article 1. Allowing all men to be free and have equal rights, in which social classes diminish, will significantly harm our country. As you said, the estates have become comfortable in their specific classes, and I believe that eliminating these classes will only cause confusion and harm in our nation. Each estate/class has been assigned specific roles and tasks that allow them to have great impacts on France. I also agree with your statement that only the 3rd Estate should have to pay taxes since other classes like the nobles and clergy already significantly affect France because of their knowledge and power. Since estates like the 1st and 2nd already impact France so much, we do not deserve to have to pay for taxes alongside our several other obligations.
DeleteClergy/Krystal Manuel
As a French Noble, I agree with your perspective, except for article 1. I believe that it is extremely unfair that all men are to be seen as equal, especially if the nobility now have done so much to further their positions and to the empire. We have the privileges we receive because of our statuses and what we have contributed to making France safe and stable. The third estate has always complained about this responsibilities and done so little. I, too, worry that giving the third estate more rights would harm the higher estates, including the entirety of our empire. They are not trained or educated of the ways to keep France successful as it has been before the revolution. Giving them more rights would weaken our strength, for they will have less taxes, more taxes on us, the nobility, and would be able to take up military or high positions. As for article 1, I think that it is quite beneficial for us to get rid of the absolutism, for it is the sole reason why many are distressed or unhappy. Absolutism would give way for new rulers or leaders, which could be our chance to rise in power. In all though, the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizens, could be beneficial to the French Empire, like you mentioned, if it is used correctly and excluded taxes on the first and second estates.
DeleteNoble/ Wiltricia Kahano
As a French noble, I find myself disagreeing with the majority of the articles of the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen. The declaration was mostly inspired by other revolutions and Enlightenment ideals, which only conflicts with France’s traditional aspects. Regarding the specifics of the declaration, I strongly disagree with articles 6 and 14. I disagree with article 6 because it refers to every citizen of France being equally eligible to all dignities and public positions and occupations associated with the law. Having every citizen with the right to work within the government will only create chaos and an unbalanced society. This could potentially lead to less people working on the land, which brings an unstable economy. Not to mention, allowing everyone the ability to take positions in the law threatens my position as a superior. Members of the Third Estate should not be allowed to have access to these occupations due to the fact that they are needed on land that is already owned by us nobles. I also strongly disagree with article 14. I disagree with this article because it allows all citizens the right to essentially deny taxes if they are seen as unfair. This article mostly refers to the fact that the Third Estate would be able to refuse to pay their taxes freely. The Third Estate should have to pay their taxes no matter what to ensure that France remains financially stable. But, although I disagree with most of the content within the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen, there are a few exceptions in which the declaration will do good for me as a noble. An example of this would be the right associated with article 3, which describes how no single authority would rule France. I agree with this article because it diminishes the idea of absolutism. With absolutism, the government was able to revoke my power as a noble. Article 3 would allow me to keep my power and not have it taken by a ruling authority.
ReplyDeleteWith all of the new rights and rules associated with the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen, I believe that the declaration will affect all sorts of change in France. I essentially think that these articles would diminish traditional French society as a whole. The majority of the rights represented in the articles are associated with all men being created equal. This kind of equality would completely destroy the French social classes. Regarding this new equality, everyone would be eligible to take positions associated with the law, as described in article 6. This could affect France by creating an unbalanced society. Members of the Third Estate would essentially be taking jobs that formally belonged to nobles, which disrupts the French social hierarchy. Article 14, which mentions the right to deny taxes if they are seen as unfair, would affect France negatively also. This is because it could lead to a potential uprising in France as well as an unstable economy. If the Third Estate refuses to pay their taxes, France could develop a rapidly growing economic crisis. On the other hand, some articles, such as article 3, would bring a more positive change to France. Article 3 addresses how no single authority would be able to rule France. This article essentially protects France as a whole from the rule of the absolute monarchy and absolutism, which gives me and other nobles the opportunity to keep my power without having it taken by the absolute monarch. Overall, I think that the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen would cause prominent negative changes to France, but I also think that laws would lead to a few positive changes that would benefit me and other nobles.
Noble/Megan Kopec
I agree with your statement about how article 14 essentially gives citizens the right to deny taxes. As a member of the French clergy, I know how important taxes are to keep a country running smoothly. Without the citizens of the third estate paying their taxes in France, the financial stability of France will be in question. Although I do agree with your opinion on the 14th article in the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, I disagree with your opinion about absolutism in French society. Article 3 puts more power into the hands of common folk, who do not know how to rule a country, therefore the 3rd article is a danger to French society.
DeleteClergy/Emma Novak
With the creation of The French Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, as a noble I think these documents have some benefits towards them but still aren’t necessary in some regards. One article that I fully support is article 3. This article states that the sovereignty resides in the nation. Through this article there won’t be an absolute monarchy which I fully support. With the absolute monarchy I lost a lot of my power in the government, but now with this article I can now have power and influence towards in the country. One article on the other hand I do not support and it is article 1. This article states that men are born and remain free and equal in rights. I don’t think that all men are born equal as they are born into their own estates and should serve their use in their estates. With this can also lead into taxes towards all the estates and taxes should only be for the third estate. Aside from taxes the third estate provides little importance towards our country, and by providing taxes to the other estates is just unfair towards us in the second estate providing assistance for peasants and having to participate in high demanding jobs. This also relates to my distaste towards the thirteenth article stating that a common tax is distributed equally. This forces me to provide for the taxes which I had always been exempt from. I had always provided much help towards France and forcing me to pay taxes is well below my class. Taxes are the job of the third estate as they don’t provide much assistance other than the taxes they provide and my rank of nobility would be comparable to that of the third estate which is just unthinkable.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think they are necessary for the future of France and they will just provide more issues than help. Although the third article which prevents an absolute monarchy is very beneficial towards the nation in the aspect of having more than a single view towards the establishment and stability of the nation, the other articles don’t provide much help. The articles focus too much on giving commoners more power and equality. This creates a situation where I have the possibility of having the same rights as the people who are classed under me. This also gives too much power and freedom towards the third estate and can be taken out of hand. With the possibility of providing the equality the document states the peasants aren’t predictable and will want more equality and freedom. The want from that just leads to chaos in our nation with uprisings from the third estate who are the majority of the people in this nation. As a noble my views are more negative towards the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen.
Noble/Edwin Jiang
As a French peasant I completely disagree with your points. Your statements about article 1 and article 13. These two articles in particular are the basis for the new equality that the national assembly is establishing within France. Furthermore, you would have a better justification to rule the land and in particular the peasantry if you had used your power for the benefit of the people and of France instead of indulging in the money and levies that you had unjustly taken from the people of France. Because of this, the national assemblies choice to treat you as equals in taxation and representation after the atrocities that your nobility have committed is a privilege and one that we believe all citizens of our great nation deserve whether you think so or not.
DeleteAs a member of the French clergy and important person in French society, I do not agree with any of the articles stated in the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen. This is for the simple fact that this declaration was written by radicals who pushed this idea through to the vast majority of French citizens with the backing of the Enlightenment. Without the idea of Enlightenment being put into peoples heads, the French Revolution never would’ve been brought on. For example, the third article in the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen says sovereignty does not reside in a person chosen by God. I know that the idea behind the dismissal of divine right was the Enlightenment ideals that are dangerous to a persons conscious by putting unrealistic themes in their heads. How can a sovereign leader not be chosen by God?
ReplyDeleteI believe that with this new Declaration, the people of France will turn against those in power and against those that have helped them for so long. An example of social disorder caused by this Declaration is in article number 10. The 10th article in this declaration is meant to promote freedom of religion, which completely eliminates the purpose of the clergy in French society. As the French clergy it is our job to fund schools and help out the poor, but without people practicing Catholicism, there is no point in us helping others. Article number 14 in the Declaration also seems harmful to society rather than benefitting it. Taxes should be a necessary requirement in society in order to benefit everyone and people should not have to have leeway when it comes to paying mandatory taxes that keep the world running.
Clergy/Emma Novak
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DeleteAs a french noble, I agree with you on the fact that this new Declaration, if it were to be implemented, would cause social turmoil in France. While you clergy help out the general populace and fund schools, we nobles provide the people protection from harm. It is unfair for the public to go against us, when we have been their protectors since they were born. I also hadn't considered your viewpoint on article 14, but I can slightly agree with it as well. The people should not have a leeway to opt out, as this just creates a loophole for people to exploit. I just hope to not pay taxes myself, as I have done much to help french society through supporting the king and protecting the people.
DeleteNoble/Yujin Kim
As Marie Antoinette I completely disagree with the idea's of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen because it agrees with the fact that there should be no absolute monarchy. Article 3 basically states that no person/group could have complete authority over everyone else. Thesis outrageous it is very crucial for the King and I to make the important decisions for the country of France. Taking our power away will ruin France and ruin the people as well. These silly and useless articles state that all men are equal and free. How can ALL men be completely equal if some are way more important than others (Article 1). For example I as Queen of England, who has made some very important decisions for France will become the same as a farmer. This idea of "equality" is just unnecessary. If you are a very high official, you should automatically be separate from the rest of the third estate, with no complains. As Queen, only the high authority roles like the King, clergy, nobles, and I are very crucial for France. So taking this social advantage away from us to be the same as any other farmer in the third estate is maddening. Article 13 is another so called "right" that I absolutely do not agree with because it says that paying taxes would be equal to everyone. I am fully aware that France is struggling with some financial situations, so it is the third estates duty to pay taxes for their own country to be powerful and strong. Does the third estate wish for Frances downfall? Surely not, so it is expected for the third estate to pay their portion of taxes. They should believe it is an honor! It is an honor to be able to provide and help their own country of France. Having the first and second estate to also pay taxes is just wrong because we are the people who have difficult and stressful jobs in order to keep France a stable country. Don't you believe just as the King and Queen our jobs are already tough on us? These are only 3 articles that have already went against every aspect of my authority, there is still many more! The articles if published and used will surely bring France to their downfall without the absolute monarchy in play.
ReplyDeleteMarie Antoinette/Anie Tebrejian
As a bourgeoise I do not agree with your statement. The third estate and others still want our King and Queen as a rulers but our voices have to be heard too. Our social classes should not affect our rights. Of course, we need rulers to guide us and we need someone to look up to but we never said we wanted to get rid of you. The third estate just wants the power of the King and Queen to not affect the rights of citizens. Myself for example, should be granted position in the government because I work hard everyday to benefit France and myself. While nobles barely do any of my work and still get granted positions because they are nobles. That is an example showing your social class affecting your rights. The third estate does not want France to fall, this is our country too. We just want more rights given to us as people and not be considered the third estate. We should not be the backs carrying the rest of France. The government and yourself should find more ways to fix the financial problem instead of dumping everything on us and making us pay more and more taxes. Maybe even establish a deal with Austria to benefit our economy, since you're from there and not France, maybe you can do something.
DeleteAs a French Noble, I agree with some of the articles from the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizens, as some could not only worsen the French economy, but the statuses of the first and second estates as well. In fact, article 11 allows all male citizens to have the freedom of speech and opinions of any topics, in public. Ultimately, this could be harmful to us politically, for the third estate could take advantage of this right and contradict the ideas or laws presented by the first and second estates. Their freedom in expressing their thoughts in public could also result in the spread of misinformation about the higher estates and its political actions, which could initially lead to chaos in the French Empire. Additionally, article 13 states that all men are to be taxed, including those in the first and second estates. I find this extremely upsetting as it is unfair for us, the nobility, to be taxed because we contribute most in the French society. Not only do we collect taxes from the third estate, aiding the French economy, we also protect the third estate from any harm. The third estate, who contributes so little, should not be demanding for taxes upon the higher estates and should be focused on giving their shares to the empire. Taxation among the higher estates would also mean higher taxes than the third estate, meaning we would experience a decline in wealth and political power. I feel it is also absurd that male citizens from the lower estates could neglect any taxes that they seem unfair, according to article 14. Like I mentioned before, taxation among the third estate is the reason for the French economic success. Having the rights to not pay their taxes would mean the worse of our empire. Article 1 also states that all men are to be seen as equal. If that is so, the 14th article shouldn’t have existed. The first and second estate has always contributed more in the French Empire, taking up higher official and military positions; therefore, we should have more rights than others. It is extremely unfair that others, who do not have much experience and skills, take up our position and could possibly make our empire unsafe.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I do not agree with the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, I believe that it could finally abolish absolutism, in which we all do not like. For instance, article 3 states that no single person should control the entire French Empire. This article could benefit the second estate as King would have less power over us, meaning more power to the nobility. However, this Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, like I mentioned repeatedly, would only weaken the French Empire. I fear that the third estate would misuse these articles and their rights and harm the first and second estates, who have had many contributions to the rise and stability of the French Empire. If these articles are used correctly, then we might achieve liberty and stabilize France again.
Noble/ Wiltricia Kahano
I agree with the fact that the Declaration may negatively affect those who used to be in the First and Second Estate including us nobles. I don’t exactly support with many of the articles stated like article 11 as you mentioned before. I also think that those who were a part of the Third Estate would take this chance to try to get as much as they can out of these new privileges for them. This in turn wouldn’t be too great for us nobles as they might have much to say about us since they’ve been against us for the longest time. I also completely agree with your disapproval of article 13. Most nobles are completely against the fact that we will probably be taxed because of these new articles advocating for equality. We have never been taxed before so I completely disapprove the taxing. I agree with you that although I don’t like some of the articles, we will be able to have a better structured government that our French society lacked before. We would also be more free like you said, as others don’t have as much power against us anymore. Overall, I pretty much have many similar viewpoints as you regarding this declaration and the articles with it.
DeleteNoble/Nina Li
As Queen Marie Antionette I can testify to the veracity of these words, but a large many of these words are also false. The first section of this beautiful statement truly addresses the audacity of the third estate's deceitful claims deepest in the lies of men. The truth of God is with my rulership and my husbands, and through this I testify against these claims. I assist such knowledge so with the reason and logic of education the Third Estate does not yet have.This Noble presents logical reason on the article 11 of this document. This Noble articulates a claim on how the true freedom of speech is a dangerous thing that should not be allotted to the uneducated common public. Secondarily, the Noble gives a good reason on the problems that come with complete taxation, and the unfairness that would occur by giving this taxation to those who provide the majority of benefits to the people.However, I am severely against the second paragraph of this post. It is severely outrageous to abolish absolutism. These absolutist ideals are what allow us rulers to make the decisions our country needs. We, as royalty, wouldn't be able to help the people so without the necessary power.
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ReplyDeleteAs a bourgeoisie I do agree with the articles. Articles like Article 6 "Law is the expression of the general will. Every citizen has a right to participate personally, or through his representative, in its foundation. It must be the same for all, whether it protects or punishes. All citizens, being equal in the eyes of the law, are equally eligible to all dignities and to all public positions and occupations, according to their abilities, and without distinction except that of their virtues and talents." or Article 1 "Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good" and Article 4 "Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law." These are articles I can agree with because It can let me grow my strength and power and eventually let me have a position in the government because they are no rights that prohibit me from doing so. Also the nobles now have to live life like the rest of us have and maybe even pay some taxes and lose power.
ReplyDeleteBut I still have a small concern because now I may have competition. I am the most powerful in the third estate and having everyone equal may or may not legitimize my power and wealth in society. Other servants or other people in the third estate might be able to grow to the extent of power that I have and prohibit me from being in the government like the nobles. I still wish I can keep my wealth and the road to wealth can be a little harder for others so I can get to my position faster. I do agree with all equal rights but i'm more interested in the benefits of my self and my family. Also this could change France drastically. The people would change, the government would change, and the safety of France would change as well. These are all reasons that are important to my development and growth. The government system changing would mean that the role I might want in the government won't probably exist anymore. Also the people would change their ways into being more violent and not helping me profit from them. Nobles would be mad or scared and flee, and the peasants would cause chaos or war if they don't get what they want. And that all depends on the King and Queen and the decisions of the government. Also, the safety of France would threaten my life. If I don't choose to participate in what may happen next, I could have people turn their backs on me or worse, I could die. I hope this all happens in a orderly and safely way where everyone gets what they want and most of the things happening would be in my favor
So in order to be clear, I do agree with the articles and what they would mean for my growth and wealth. But what i may not agree with is what the articles can cause. It can beneficial or terrible for not just me, but for everyone.
I am a noble in French society. Upon reading the articles of the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen, I found many ideals that I find myself agreeing with but there are also some ideals that I don’t agree with. I’ve also noticed that much of the changes in these articles most benefit the lower classes. When reading the article 1, I am struck by the thought of our social classes or our estates basically becoming useless. If we were all to become free and equal, there would be no such use of our past classes. I don’t feel to great about this because how would our taxes be split then? Would we all have to pay? I refuse to pay taxes as I never had to pay taxes and it was always those of the lower class paying for them. There should be no change in that, but that wouldn’t work out if the people of our society all suddenly because equal. When thinking about the topic of taxes, I saw article 13 that I completely disapprove of. This article states that there should be a share of the cost for the maintenance of our public surroundings. This confirms the taxation of all citizens. To us nobles, we do not tolerate being taxed. It’s one of the major things we are trying to prevent from changing. So, I highly disprove of this article. An article I am fine about would be article 5. This is because article 5 would protect us and basically everybody in general from harm that isn’t supported by the law. I find this article quite satisfying. I am quite neutral about article 9 as many crimes may be covered up so sometimes the guilty may be let off the hook which wouldn’t be very fair. But I suppose it wouldn’t be too bad because the innocent are also protected and are more advantageous in this case. Overall, I’m pretty neutral about the articles stated in this declaration.
ReplyDeleteRegarding our future with this implemented declaration, I believe that these articles truly will have much impact on our French society. There will probably no longer be a definite “social class” because the articles are advocating for equality. I don’t really support this as most nobles like me like the feeling of being ‘superior’ to another group of people. In addition, many of these articles would be allowing more freedom for the once lower classes. There wouldn’t be too many things that would tell people apart in terms of social distinctions. However, the rights of all the people would be protected and each individual person would be respected. The guilty would be accountable for their actions while the innocent would be justified. I find this quite decent as the people would be given more justice. Because of the fact that everybody is given the freedom of speech, there would probably be more voices of the once lower classes because they finally are able to represent their feelings freely. However one of the major changes that I believe that would happen that I don’t support would be the taxation of all the people. I don’t and will never support this but I’ll probably get used to it at one point. Other than that, I see much more equality in France’s society and most justice among the people but less satisfaction of those who were once dominating the social classes.
Noble/Nina Li
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DeleteI agree that the articles of the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen will not benefit nobles and rather benefit the third estate. The articles advocate for equal rights and equal taxation, which are the things that the third estate want (equal rights, equal representation). I also agree that article 1 wouldn't benefit us as now the nobles have to pay taxes which they never had to pay before, especially since we don't want to. This article makes it so that everyone gets equal rights, but many people are forced into positions where they don't get equal rights, which makes it so that we should keep our original social classes and not go to this new different one. I also believe that the articles will impact French society a lot. There would be new social standings and also new economic conditions like the taxation of all. This will not benefit the nobles as now we are reduced to equals with workers and also have to pay taxes when we once were treated lavishly by the king.
Deletenoble/Yubin Kim
I would have to disagree with your attack on the first article. This article is essential to the implementation of the rest of the articles within the document, and provides the basis for the rights as a whole. Providing the absurd argument that " If we were all to become free and equal, there would be no such use of our past classes.", to attack the article is inherently flawed. As a bourgeoisie, I understand that change is necessary and inevitable, as it allows me to develop myself and to gain prominence within society. Just because something is going to change and that we might get confused about taxation, doesn't necessarily mean that it is a bad thing. Rather this change is a good thing, because your class will finally pay their dues to society.
DeleteAs a clergy in France, I greatly disagree with the articles expressed in the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen. The Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen was created by Enlightenment thinkers like Marquis de Lafayette who are trying to corrupt and harm our country. These Enlightenment thinkers are diffusing radical and extreme beliefs throughout France, in which revolts against the government and the Church have occurred. The monarchy and the Church have been able to sustain and develop France for so long now, why would changes need to occur? These Enlightenment thinkers have produced the Declaration in order to separate power in France, but doing so will only cause harm in the country. By decreasing the amount of power the government and the Church have, problems will only arise because the unification that the Church and government bring to the people in France will weaken as more and more people try to fight for power. With this, the clergy’s ability to spread and educate the French people with Catholic beliefs will weaken as Enlightenment ideas through the Declaration continue to expand.
ReplyDeleteThe Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen created by the Enlightenment thinkers has numerous aspects that will harm France, rather than benefit it. For instance, article 10, which states that people should have religious freedom and shouldn’t be judged for their opinions or religious views will have a significant negative effect on France. By allowing citizens to have the freedom to choose their own religion rather than Catholicism, conflicts between people of different religions in the country will occur as arguments in beliefs and traditions will happen. The clergy’s actions of spreading Catholicism in France has always been an act towards uniting the French people as they believed in the same religious views and traditions, but will greatly decrease if numerous religions are accepted in the country. With this, article 13, which states that a common contribution is essential to maintaining the country is extremely absurd. In the past, our country has been able to continue expanding with just taxation from the 3rd Estate, so placing taxes on other estates and classes like the clergy and nobles are ridiculous. As a clergy, I have done so much, like work to promote education and provide charity for those in need, in which it would be unfair for me to have to pay taxes as well. In addition, article 1, which states that all men are free and equal and social classes should only be used for the general good, is invalid and will only cause harm in France. By eliminating social classes, confusion will occur because classes help signify the specific tasks and roles people have, like how we, the clergy, work to promote Catholicism.
Clergy/Krystal Manuel
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ReplyDeleteAs a noble, I mainly disagree with these articles as they advocate for enlightenment ideals. However, I would agree with article #3, which says that the sovereignty resides in the nation and not in a single individual or group of people. This displays that absolutism shouldn’t exist, which I agree as I don’t like how the monarch diminished my power. The government didn’t allow nobles to become powerful, which would change if rule #3 is in place. However, there are many articles I object against, like article 1. The first one states that all men are born and refaim free and equal in rights. However, this is not true as some men are born with better standings, like a noble who should remain in a higher power compared to people born as peasants as we can control them. Another article I don’t agree with is article 11 as the third estate can spread (and already have) more ideas against us nobles, which is bad for us politically. This also leads to them gaining power, which we don’t want as we are obviously superior to them. Another article I object to is article 14, which advocates for equal taxes. It gives the third estate more power against us nobles, although the third estate is supposed to pay all of the taxes as us nobles of the second estate are very important; it also decreases our political power.
ReplyDeleteOverall, I disagree with these articles as they advocate for the equality of everyone and mainly the oppression of us higher estates. However, there are some things that I would keep, like getting rid of absolutism. I predict they will radically change france as they are new laws that are going to change normal french society. The social class of where the monarch, clergy, and nobles were on the top while the rest of the people were on the bottom will be replaced with a prominent working class and a decline in the clergy, nobles, and monarch’s power. People will have more rights and most people will also have equality with each other, especially with the rising movements of women's rights and worker’s rights. There will also be the taxation of all people if this is implemented in france, which us nobles object to.
Noble/Yubin Kim
As a french noble, I generally disagree with the articles included in the Declaration of Right of Man and Citizen. The enlightenment ideas supported in each part of the declaration is evident in some articles, like 6. Article 6 says that everyone is equal under the eyes of the law, and therefore have the right to work due to their merits instead of status. This will draw people away from the land, a source of income for myself, and change our economy, which france cannot handle at the moment. Secondly article 13 suggests that all citizens are required to pay tax that is proportionate to their pay. This would take away a large amount of pay which is unfair due to all we do for others, like providing protection to the third estate. Instead we are forced to pay a lot unfairly. Overall, some of the articles promote an agenda that goes after our already existing economy and social hierarchy, both of which will only fall apart with the interference of enlightenment ideas. And even if a new economy and social hierarchy were to rise with the fall of the old, we nobles would be unfairly attacked and guillotined for our previous engagements.
ReplyDeleteAlthough most of the articles, since supporting Enlightenment ideas, I believe will not help france, some articles are not bad either. For instance, article 3 suggests that authority cannot be held in one supreme head. This would limit the kings power in controlling us and finally take us away from the palace and back to our families. It would also give us back some lawmaking decisions, allowing us to continue implementing laws that will help us stay in power. The articles referring to a law is also something I could be able to get behind, as through laws, I can ensure no unnecessary harm befalls me because of a hateful peasant, and perhaps hide behind or find loopholes to get out of my own problems. Overall however, I do not support the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen due to how it limits and undermines my position as a noble.
Noble/Yujin Kim
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DeleteI disagree on how you disagree that some of these articles/ideals are terrible and shouldn't affect you in the first place. You complain greatly about the taxing and how it shouldn't change, but it should because the taxing on the peasants is just unfair. We should pay it all, and you don't have to contribute to it. How is that fair? We are literally starving and working ourselves to death because we want to survive, but we have to pay these absurd taxes that take away our livelihoods. What good does "protecting the Third Estate" do when we don't even have lives. However, I do agree with you on things like Article Three because limiting the King's power is a good thing. With the Declaration, peasants finally have a voice in the government, and the King shouldn't be able to take it all away.
DeletePeasant / Urban Worker // Timothy Ang
I agree with your opinion on article thirteen. Third and Second Estates should not be taxed in proportion to their income. Clergy does a lot of good for the public. They promote religion, and religion is in support of absolute monarchies and Divine Right of God. In addition, religious officials give people hope and make them more obedient. Obedience of the Third Estate is one of the keys to how we can improve France. Educated people like the King, nobility, and clergy have the mental capacity to make the decisions and laws for the rest of the country. But, why do you think article six is beneficial to nobles? I feel it undermines you a lot by allowing peasants into the class.
DeleteKing Louis the XVI/Viktoriia Udovichenko
Finally, the day has come where I can see some changes come to fruition to our social class. As a peasant, I now have rights that make me as equal as the people in the Second and First Estate, so no more will I have to be oppressed. So in regards to this Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, I completely agree with it. Things in society would be more fair towards us “peasants”, and the governmental powers are limited, so we can’t be abused by “higher” class people. This is practically said in Article Six where everyone has the right to vie for a public office. Now, peasants like me can get a voice inside of the government when we didn’t have any before. Additionally, in Article Thirteen, in order to keep France running, we need taxes. However, instead of the taxes being 100% dependent on us, it is spread among the public evenly. We can actually live our lives. We don’t have to starve everything and overwork ourselves just to pay the taxes and to survive. This heavy burden that we carry with us each day has been finally lightened. Plus, Article 15 is probably the most important article within the Declaration in my opinion because we can see how well a public agent is in administration. We can see what they are doing all the time, and so we would know if they are corrupted or planning something.
ReplyDeleteFrance is finally becoming a better place, and these changes are the main cause of it. No more leeches from the First and Second Estate. No more unfair taxes that ride on the shoulders of the peasantry to pay for all of it. We finally have a chance to try and restore our economy that the corruption and useless lavish spending of the higher classes. The peasantry finally gets a voice in the government, and we are able to have more freedom. And, since we don’t have to pay as much of a tax, we can finally enjoy some luxuries that we didn’t have access or time to do before. I am really happy with these changes, and the rest of the peasantry probably agrees with me. The French Empire should stay this way, as it more fair and more free now.
Peasant / Urban Worker // Timothy Ang
I, the French peasant, wholeheartedly agree with these articles. It has taken hundreds of years of oppression under the boot of the upper estates but now these are the first steps to finally being free. It had taken the conflicts of the many religious wars of Europe, the over taxation and conscription placed upon us by the upper estates and the disruption of our agrarian based ways of life but finally we have come to fight. We have overthrown the upper estates and with the guidance of the national assembly we have started our journey to make all men equal and free of the constraints of the clergy and nobility and to let the people rule themselves. These articles that were put forth by the declaration of rights of man and citizen are the first step on this journey.
ReplyDeleteThey have been the result of our demands. they have brought about equal taxation to the church and the nobility, and they have given us the representation and equal treatment that we demanded within the government. Furthermore they have removed the decadence of the King and given us the freedom that we deserve. We hope that these articles will bring about total equality in the nation through equal representation , and lead to a system whereby our king may still exist, but we may have a government whereby our lives are left uninterrupted and we may exercise liberty and freedom so long as it does not inure any one else. Additionally we wish to live without a system of over taxation and endless fighting and where we can be represented equally within our government and policy that can only prohibit action if it causes harm to others. This is our goal for the France of tomorrow.
I agree with you that this declaration is the first step to our freedom. Although some people might not listen to what we have to say, others would start to realize the way our social order should be questioned. Why is everyone treated so unfairly? We, the Third Estate, has to survive under the pressure of all the labor and taxes. I completely agree with you on what would happen to France if people listened and went through with this Declaration. Our society would improve and there wouldn’t be so much chaos. We are all people. We should be treated the same way and have the same rights as everyone else.
DeletePeasant or Urban Worker/Sherry Chen
As a bourgeoisie of the former french third estate I have lived my life attempting to rise through the social hierarchy. When the rest of the nation realized that the disgusting actions of King Louis XVI and Marie Antionette, they rose up. With the revolution we created the Declaration of the Rights of Man, which us bourgeoisie helped write in order to assert the rights of the third estate and to reduce the restrictions that we had in political power. I agree strongly with article 2, that keeps men safe from the government infringing upon their private property. This article allows me to further develop my business and grow my own personal power, which could eventually let me gain political power. I additionally side with article 11 strongly, as this article asserts the right for every person to not be jailed for no reason. This keeps myself, and the rest of the french people safe from being wrongfully imprisoned by the government should the government not like what we are doing. I further like article 18, which ensures that our land cannot be taken from us by the government. As a business man having the right to keep my land, unless I break a law, is important to the success of my business. However, generally speaking, I really dislike some of the caveats present within many of the articles (4,5,7,8, and 10). These caveats present concerns for myself and the rest of the peasants within France, as they don’t specify what exactly a “disturbance to the public peace” is. Therefore these statements could be used to bypass these articles, which could be used to harm the people of france.
ReplyDeleteI predict that these articles will likely have profound effects on the state of France. Prior to these documents being written, our nation was governed by a weak ruler who couldn’t govern the nation effectively. These documents allow the people of france to have a say in the governing, which I believe could allow people like me to have a bigger say within the government. Furthermore, these documents represent a change within europe, and a major effect of the enlightenment. The ideals of the enlightenment provided the basis for my economic success, and the implementation of this document will allow them to further spread. This makes me happy. Finally I think that these documents will further spread the push for rights throughout europe, which I think could hurt my business activities.
Evan Fife / Bourgeoisie
As a peasant in France, I strongly agree with these articles because it would change our society in a good way. Before the articles were made, we, the Third Estate were not equal with the First and Second Estate and we were forced to pay all the taxes in the country. Why does the first two Estates get everything and still doesn’t have to pay for the taxes? Where were you when the bread prices raised and we couldn’t even get enough food for our family? I believe that making these articles would greatly improve our empire. By making everyone equal, our country wouldn’t be in such chaos anymore and we could make us strong again. We are never cared about and are never listened to when we have something to say. The articles make sure that everyone has liberty, equality, and gets the rights that they are supposed to get. I believe it would only change France for the better.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, all of the articles make sense to be taken action. For example, I agree with article 1 because by making everyone equal, the peasants and urban workers don’t have all of the stress on their shoulders. The high taxes that we are forced to pay could be split up so no one has to worry about starvation or not having enough food to feed one family. People should be free, like working for someone in their land, they should be able to get something in return instead of just being able to live on the land. I also agree with article 4 because everyone should get the freedom they deserve. We are supposed to work on the land of our lords, which are the nobles. They wouldn’t give us a lot of freedom and we are supposed to stay on the land and not work for anyone else. Lastly, I agree with article 10. During the Estates General Meeting, no one was willing to listen to us. King Louis was very conflicted about what he should do. If our opinions were listened to and we were not shut down, that would at least give us some respect.
Peasant or Urban Worker/Sherry Chen
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ReplyDeleteAs a peasant, I strongly believe that the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen aligns greatly with my goals and beliefs. One such article that I agree with would be article 5 & 7, which gives us [citizens] legal protection from the tyranny of the nobility. We [third estate] have long been subject to corruption and the filth of the nobility, and these laws help to protect myself, as well as others. I believe that these articles will affect change in my country rather greatly, as the new legal rights as well as protection will now allow my people [third estate] to have a greater voice, without the fear of senseless prosecution for our "blasphemy" [enlightenment ideals].
ReplyDeleteI also believe that there is promise in some other specific articles, such as article 13. I strongly believe in this article to affect change in France, as it mentions the common distribution of work among citizens. This is important, as it helps justify my people's [peasants] taxation later on and workload, as now the 1st and 2nd estate cannot escape their public duty to us humble citizens. This is mainly why I agree with this article, as it shall help my people to not be so unfairly treated and overworked, which is a large step in social rights. This is a large bound from my previously unfair, disgusting, hard, and evil working conditions, only to be used as taxes for the unrestrained wealthy aristocrats.
Liam Coldwell/Peasant or Urban Worker
As the King of France, King Louis the XVI, I only agree with a few articles in the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, but it is absolutely necessary to amend articles six and fourteen. Some of the articles could definitely benefit France and the French citizens. Other articles would lead to chaos and only hurt France. Article six states that laws need to be an expression of general public opinion, which is laughable. Laws should be in place, but they can only be written and approved by me and a few nobles that I choose to trust. Most citizens don’t have the education required to make as big of decision as making laws that have impact on the whole country. Article six will have a negative effect on France because it will let poorly thought out laws control the country.
ReplyDeleteArticle fourteen is also problematic because it gives people too much power. It states that people can control amount of taxation and refuse it if they deem it unfair. Taxation should only be controlled by me, the King. Common people do not know how much money is needed for the budget of France. It is impossible to please absolutely every person in the country, but what should be our first priority is keeping up our military and architecture. Both of those show our power and cannot be undermined if some peasant wants to avoid paying taxes. Article fourteen will have a negative impact on France because it will restrict the amount of money that can be used for improvement of France as a whole. One of the articles I agree with is article seven, especially its second and third points. The first doesn't allow arrest without a legal reason, second doesn't allow common people persecute others, and the third point prohibits resisting arrest. Article seven will have a positive effect on France by allowing our law enforcement and I full control over peasants. It will also sustain the absolute monarchy by not letting people decide what is right and wrong.
King Louis the XVI/Viktoriia Udovichenko
It has recently come to my attention that an outrageous document called the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen has been popping up throughout the French population. It concerns me, as a queen, how so many can be influenced by such unideal standards being presented into society. I utterly disagree with the promises being made in the document, and I believe that it will bring chaos into France. I disagree with all of the articles, but I specifically disagree most with articles 3,11, and 13, and I believe those articles specifically will bring the most chaos and disorder into France. Article 3 completely dissolves the power lying within the monarchy. How will the king and I represent France’s power and wealth without the presence of the monarchy? Complete madness. Article 11 would continue the spread of these crazy ideas being input by the so-called Enlightenment thinkers. Not only would this spread misinformation and lies, but it would cause more rebellions and uprisings within French society, throwing off its balance. Lastly, article 13 is the most harmful of them all. If the tax is extended to the whole population, the social hierarchy of France would fall apart, and our great economic prosperity would suffer. In addition, our population would not be as controlled.
ReplyDeleteI think the spread of these chaotic ideas will lead to the fall of France. France will never be able to have the same types of success as it is now with the king and I at the head. Spread of misinformation and reformation of society will only cause imbalance and confusion all throughout society. Without the king and I, France would be lost in terms of economic power and leadership. Its identity as a global power with strong economic prosperity would be lost at the blink of an eye.
Marie Antoinette/Katherine Son
I am a peasant, part of the third estate. Overall, I agree with the articles named in the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen. In particular, I agree with Articles 1, 2, and 6. Article 1 states that all people are equal and should have equal rights. As someone who had been put down by the current system, this would work to equalize me with those that were previously of a higher class than me. Article 2 states that the goal of political association is to preserve those rights that are equal among all. These would preserve my own rights and give me status within society rather than simply keeping me down. Article 6 states that law must be the expression of the will of the people. In other words, peasants like me can help shape laws to be more fair to us rather than favoring the first and second estates.
ReplyDeleteThese articles in particular, as well as the entire Declaration will benefit France as a whole, especially those of the third estate. We previously had very little voice in the government, but with this, we could have some control and have rights to ourselves. Article 1 defines the specific rights, article 2 states that they are to be protected by law, and article 6 states that the law must be the expression of the people. This allows peasants and urban workers to be protected by the law.
Peasant/Damian Beller